Saturday, August 2, 2008

Catamaran Issues

As designers we advise against three very common practices in the catamaran industry. I invite comment and debate.
Let us look at the three.
Strip. Could anyone look at the shapes and how we built Toria (1965) and lots more, before strip came in, and say that it would be more efficient to use narrow strips instead of full size sheets. The power of advertising provided the motivation to adopt strip as standard. In doing so, the build time escalated. After 2-3 decades, we are beginning to see a trend away from strip. The total inefficiency message is getting across.
Balsa. Toria had a small ply top made in a hurry to get to the race. When modified a few months later, we cut through ply and foam. The foam was bone dry. The ply was soaked. That was when I made the rule to exclude anything that can rot from within the structure. Balsa loves water and loses strength within days, so much more vulnerable than ply. There is nothing to gain and everything to lose in using balsa. However well built, there will always be a question mark over any balsa boat structure and at some time the balsa will get wet and rot. It is sold on the basis of its higher compression and shear strength, but ignoring the very simple fact that PVC foam has met all compression and shear strength requirements on boats for more than 40 years.
The three stay rig. Look at the profile view and measure the angles. Forestay to mast will be about 18 degrees. The fixed shrouds are at 8 degrees. The big forestay load is supported by the aft shrouds in a reverse lever situation, putting much higher load on the shrouds and much higher compression in the mast. We add runners and the aft support angle goes up to 18-20-22 degrees, with good control, much lower loads on everything and no pre-tensioning. A recent explanation given to me by a sparmaker: The poor support angle ensures that the forestay could not be tight and hence the load in it was restricted and hence less compression on the mast. The load on the shroud in capsize situation becomes the criterion. The spar maker engineers the rig to the designers stay arrangement. This situation, no doubt, comes from the cruising sailor requesting the minimum number of controls, but without being given the knowledge of the compromise involved or the effectiveness and the ease of operation of runners.

Derek.

1 Comments:

At April 25, 2010 at 3:25 PM , Blogger Go Go Garth said...

Hello Mr Kelsall,

I have started to follow your work after sailing a St Francis 43 (hull1) from California to NZ and back. For years and about 50000miles I have sailed almost exclusively monohulls. What a differed to sail on a cat.

I agree with your comment about strip built. I worked for Cavalier in Auckland in the 1970s and we built original plugs using this method. I always thought is wasteful and not especially strong. Since then I have built several plywood boats... 12'6" Swapscott Dory (actually 5)and a 27 Stiletto. I also admit building a Ferro 55 Sampson, although I don't like to talk about it.

The Balsa... no doubt, you're comments are right one. the other problem I noticed [on several PolyCon 39's ] is that in high traffic/load areas the sandwich starts to separate probably due to the inability of balsa to bind well or deformation within the wood cellular structure. The layers start to shift and literally chafe against each other. Then the balsa turns to powder with no structural integrity in the composite. I have also experiments with honeycomb and believe this to be an excellent solution. Have you tried this? I reviewed some experiments from Eva Hollman (in Ventura, California) which seem very effective.

Finally, regarding the 3 stay rig… as you know the St Francis 43 uses running stays. I agree with your comments about the angles and so on but disagree with you about having permanent vs running stays. My impression is that you feel running backstays are preferred? I prefer a permanent stay with additional running stay to adjust the mast bend. Although I have never lost a mast, the thought of it is horrible. It seems to me having a permanent backstay just makes sense and provides, if anything, psychological benefits to push the boat a little further. Also, it is one less line to fuss about. With all that said, with current technology in carbon fiber and alloys, the best solution must be a free standing rig.

Anyway, I’m going to retire in NZ next year… I’m looking forward to see up and personal “Cool Change” if it is still in Northland… what a “beauty”.

Garth
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